#14207 - 08/28/08 12:25 PM
AR Terms - are they sufficient
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Adagio Master
Registered: 03/16/99
Posts: 10504
Loc: Canada
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We are trying to determine if the Due date calculations currently in Adagio Receivables are sufficient for managing the different types of due dates and discount dates our customers are using or that are common in their specific industries.
If you grant payment terms or early payment discounts to your customers, have you been able to automate those terms using the current calculations available in Adagio Receivables? If not, what type of payment terms (not installment receivables) are you granting and how do you calculate them from the invoice date?
Thanks for any and all feedback.
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Andrew Bates
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#14214 - 08/28/08 04:34 PM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: Retired_Guy]
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Adagio Pro
Registered: 03/23/02
Posts: 10
Loc: New Jersey
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Dating terms.
Payment will be due on a specific date. Date does not change relative to Invoice date. Usually a new date will be assigned for each season - i.e. Due date might be 12/15/08 for goods shipped 9/15/08 to 11/30/08. Usually subject to a credit limit, and customer can purchase more by paying for past shipments.
Allows small retailers to purchase ahead for the season. Easier for vendor to manage inventory and shipments by spreading seasonal purchases out.
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Kate Spontak Stief Group New Jersey, the Garden State
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#14216 - 08/28/08 05:09 PM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: Kate Spontak]
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Adagio Master
Registered: 03/16/99
Posts: 10504
Loc: Canada
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Hi Kate,
OK - we've had a couple of requests for this. Should we just store the month/day and assume that the year will always be such that it is in the future? Or would a specific date be better (which might result in invoice due dates in the past and unexpected aging results)?
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Andrew Bates
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#14229 - 08/29/08 02:39 PM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: Kate Spontak]
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Adagio Wizard
Registered: 06/15/04
Posts: 3641
Loc: Toronto ON, Canada
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Hi Kate:
I had the same request from a client recently for the same reason.
Andrew had a suggestion that serves our client well. You may already know this but it was news to me!
If the Terms code on the Order/Invoice header is left blank, you can enter any Due Date that you want. It's not as good as a special Terms code because it relies on the user, but it works in most cases.
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#14279 - 09/02/08 04:31 PM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: Bruce Gardner]
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Adagio Pro
Registered: 03/23/02
Posts: 10
Loc: New Jersey
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Thanks for the tip, Bruce.
Andrew,
Assuming the year in the future would be fine. Usually dates are up to several months out but not more than that.
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Kate Spontak Stief Group New Jersey, the Garden State
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#14334 - 09/05/08 10:02 AM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: Retired_Guy]
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New Guy
Registered: 06/07/01
Posts: 8
Loc: Waterloo, Ontario
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Is this something others have had requests for?
We have been asked for aging to the end of x months rather than just the end of the next month which currently exists.
Using existing options and adding 60 or 90 days will result in a day or two either side of the actual month end date which is not the desired result.
The previous posts touch on this to some extent but do not resolve the issue completely.
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Frank VanderGriendt Stief Group, Waterloo, ON 800.540.3164
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#14335 - 09/05/08 10:09 AM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: MLS]
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Adagio Master
Registered: 03/16/99
Posts: 10504
Loc: Canada
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Hi Frank,
Would the addition of date fields for entry of the aging days (so that you could see the dates being selected), be a reasonable improvement?
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Andrew Bates
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#14336 - 09/05/08 10:21 AM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: Retired_Guy]
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New Guy
Registered: 06/07/01
Posts: 8
Loc: Waterloo, Ontario
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That sounds like a reasonable solution Andrew.
When you say date fields do you mean a pop-up calendar? Some people are not so good at determining month end dates without visually seeing the calendar.
If so I might suggest only being able to move forward or back month by month so as to avoid aging years in advance by mistake.
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Frank VanderGriendt Stief Group, Waterloo, ON 800.540.3164
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#14337 - 09/05/08 12:40 PM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: MLS]
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Adagio Master
Registered: 03/16/99
Posts: 10504
Loc: Canada
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Hi Frank,
Yes - a pop-up calender as in all other Adagio dialogs. You'd could choose either the number of days or a secific date. Selecting one would change the other, so you'd notice 400 days in the future.
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Andrew Bates
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#30872 - 02/10/12 10:06 AM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: Warren Karges]
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Adagio Master
Registered: 03/16/99
Posts: 10504
Loc: Canada
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Hi Warren,
Since changing the Terms management actually has to occur in Invoices, Time&Billing and OrderEntry before any changes can be made to Adagio Receivables, and there was little push for additional defined Terms, this improvement has not made the cut for recent upgrades. It also hasn't been mentioned in any Adagio Wish.
Guess it's not that big a deal for people!
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Andrew Bates
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#30937 - 02/15/12 10:56 AM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: Softrak Support]
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Adagio Maestro
Registered: 02/22/08
Posts: 1247
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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Hi Andrew,
Our AR Terms are working great except for 1 issue. We have some customers that take their discount before tax and others that take their discount after tax. Adagio AR only allows us to select one or the other in the Company Profile. We need this option to be in the Terms Code, not the Company Profile.
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Susan Tennier TDL Canada Trenton, Ontario
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#30941 - 02/15/12 11:48 AM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: SusanTennier]
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Adagio Master
Registered: 03/16/99
Posts: 10504
Loc: Canada
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That's a good suggestion. Thanks.
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Andrew Bates
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#30953 - 02/16/12 03:57 AM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: Douglas Dickie]
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Adagio Specialist
Registered: 10/25/10
Posts: 337
Loc: Concord, On
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Douglas is quite right but we all have customers that take their discount after taxes - it's just easier to calculate. But it's not illegal to give a discount on an invoice. Enough said.
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#30974 - 02/17/12 03:02 PM
Re: AR Terms - are they sufficient
[Re: MikeS]
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Adagio Maestro
Registered: 02/22/08
Posts: 1247
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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I tested the "calculate base for discount with tax included" in the Company Profile and whether it's checked or not doesn't seem to make any difference. Either way, it calculates the discount pre-tax.
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Susan Tennier TDL Canada Trenton, Ontario
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