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#31075 - 02/28/12 11:17 AM Toolkit - AP History details are gone
SusanTennier Offline
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Registered: 02/22/08
Posts: 1247
Loc: Ontario, Canada
We are looking at a few of our vendors history and trying to figure out how it's possible that the account details are missing. After looking further we realize it has affected all the Vendors who were combined with Toolkit. I've attached a screen shot.

By the way, we wouldn't have required using Toolkit at all if there was a drop down menu for Report Groups in AP. Since there isn't, we use Control Accounts instead and since it's impossible to change a Control Account in AP, the only work around we've come up with is creating a new account and using Tool Kit to combine into. We've done this to dozens of accounts. Now to find out we've lost all our details in history as a result... not good!


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Susan Tennier
TDL Canada
Trenton, Ontario

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#31080 - 02/28/12 01:35 PM Re: Toolkit - AP History details are gone [Re: SusanTennier]
Bob Wisener Offline
Adagio Conductor

Registered: 03/19/02
Posts: 560
Loc: Vancouver, BC
Hi Susan,

I'll have to investigate further. Perhaps the problem is combining vendors with different control accounts or something unrelated. It would be better, if I was testing with a backup of your data...made by the Toolkit, prior to the changes. I'll also need to review what was done and when. That can be coordinated on email.
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#31082 - 02/28/12 03:40 PM Re: Toolkit - AP History details are gone [Re: Bob Wisener]
SusanTennier Offline
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Registered: 02/22/08
Posts: 1247
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Softrak: When will there be a drop down report group in AP? Also, when we change from using Control Accounts to Report Groups, how will we ever get rid of all these Control Accounts in AP?!
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Susan Tennier
TDL Canada
Trenton, Ontario

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#31083 - 02/28/12 03:43 PM Re: Toolkit - AP History details are gone [Re: SusanTennier]
Retired_Guy Offline
Adagio Master

Registered: 03/16/99
Posts: 10504
Loc: Canada
Hi Susan,

Further upgrades to Adagio Payables are on hold until we've finished Adagio PurchaseOrders. I don't know what the nprocess would be to change a vendor's control account until that development work is undertaken.

Certainly Bob has the tools to do wonderful things.
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#31084 - 02/28/12 03:52 PM Re: Toolkit - AP History details are gone [Re: Retired_Guy]
Softrak Support Offline

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Registered: 03/09/99
Posts: 11520
Loc: Vancouver, BC Canada
Hi Susan,

Would creating an Optional field in Payables work for you in the situation where Report Group selection was desired? Optional Fields now allow pre-defining the list of valid choices, allow you to add to the list (or not) and prevent you from entering a non-valid value. It may be that you really need report groups and this is not a valid workaround.

Fields require an additional data file and an index, to provide a drop down selection of available record values. Many Adagio programs such as Receivables and Inventory have an 'Edit Report Groups' function, but to date Payables does not yet have this.
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#31085 - 02/28/12 03:58 PM Re: Toolkit - AP History details are gone [Re: Softrak Support]
SusanTennier Offline
Adagio Maestro

Registered: 02/22/08
Posts: 1247
Loc: Ontario, Canada
What we really need is for Payables to have the "Edit Report Group" function. We only need one Control Account! I have no idea how I'm ever going to merge the Control Accounts back to one, but that is ultimately what I need to do so that we never have to deal with the impossible task of trying to change an AP Control Account ever again. There is no way I can ever get all our vendors to a zero balance. I used to be able to import a new Control Account to a vendor but that doesn't work anymore.
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Susan Tennier
TDL Canada
Trenton, Ontario

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#31086 - 02/28/12 04:11 PM Re: Toolkit - AP History details are gone [Re: SusanTennier]
Bruce Gardner Online   content
Adagio Wizard

Registered: 06/15/04
Posts: 3611
Loc: Toronto ON, Canada
Susan:
How are you using the different Account Sets/Report Groups?
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Bruce Gardner
ARX Business Solutions Inc.

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#31087 - 02/28/12 04:29 PM Re: Toolkit - AP History details are gone [Re: Bruce Gardner]
SusanTennier Offline
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Registered: 02/22/08
Posts: 1247
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Hi Bruce,

We're using Control Accounts in AP, but they all use the identical same GL accounts. We're only using them for the purpose of reporting.
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Susan Tennier
TDL Canada
Trenton, Ontario

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#31088 - 02/28/12 04:45 PM Re: Toolkit - AP History details are gone [Re: SusanTennier]
Retired_Guy Offline
Adagio Master

Registered: 03/16/99
Posts: 10504
Loc: Canada
Hi Susan,

I can imagine an improvement that would let you change the Control Acount in Payables as long as the GL account was the same.

Even so, this still has to wait.
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#31089 - 02/28/12 05:03 PM Re: Toolkit - AP History details are gone [Re: SusanTennier]
Bruce Gardner Online   content
Adagio Wizard

Registered: 06/15/04
Posts: 3611
Loc: Toronto ON, Canada
Susan:
Allow me to interpret your response and to play devil's advocate. I think your concern is that, without validation of the Report Group, a user could type an incorrect value into that field.

So to avoid that risk, you are jumping through hoops with the Account Set code, making your life difficult and bumping up against a (current) restriction of AP.

Why not use the Report Group as it currently exists? I agree that validation is very useful but it's not absolutely necessary. You rely on your staff to enter a Vendor's name and address correctly and, more importantly, to enter dozens of AP invoices correctly every day. Why not rely on them to assign the correct Report Group code?

I wouldn't expect that Vendors are added in the dozens nor that they change Report Groups that often. You can police the Report Groups simply by creating a GridView report that scans the Vendor list and looks for incorrect codes.

It could be that I am over-simplifying your situation and you will point out that there is something I am missing. Your thoughts?
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ARX Business Solutions Inc.

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