#7839 - 11/01/06 07:27 PM
AR letter specification
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Adagio Scholar
Registered: 06/19/06
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Loc: Fowler, CA, USA
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I have built an AR letter specification that uses the following sections: Page Header, Detail Line, End of Page , and Page Footer
The specification displays absolutly correctly in the designer preview and printed copy. The "End of Page" section is missing in AR print/preview and on the printer. I have verified that that I am in fact pointing to the same specification folder/file in both cases. I can provide the actual specification file, designer print image, and AR print image on request - nothing special or private about it.
Is "End of Page" a new feature in one of the more recent releases because it can make for a very nice formatted letter & statement. I have download the most current documentation and cannot find any references to Section "End of Page" - I assume it was in the Fundamentals manual.
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#7841 - 11/02/06 10:51 AM
Re: AR letter specification
[Re: Douglas Dickie]
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Registered: 06/19/06
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Loc: Fowler, CA, USA
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No, it is to provide another section after the detail section as in the bottom of a letter. It also give the opportunity to float a signature section immediately under the detail section without a huge white-space toward the bottom of the page. As I said, it prints absolutly correctly in the designer.
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#7842 - 11/02/06 11:32 AM
Re: AR letter specification
[Re: Kay]
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Adagio Action Team
Registered: 03/09/99
Posts: 11564
Loc: Vancouver, BC Canada
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Hi Kay,
The only purpose of the 'End of Page' section is to define the section height of the last defined section in the specification. This has been there since day 1 of Adagio. I am surprised that anything that comes after this section is printing in the preview.
In any case, the correct way to design a specification is to not have any other sections or fields appearing after the 'End of page'.
How many details are you printing on your letters? If none, then you do not need a Detail section for your specification.
If only a few, then increase the section size of the Page Footer to something significantly larger. That way, you can have objects such as this signature print higher up the page, by inserting objects near the top of the Page Footer section.
The way Receivables statements and letters have sections print is that the page header prints at the top, the page footer prints at the bottom, and any remaining space in between is reserved for details. Thus if you don't have many details, you can replace that white space with a larger page footer.
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#7843 - 11/02/06 11:45 AM
Re: AR letter specification
[Re: Kay]
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Adagio Scholar
Registered: 06/19/06
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Loc: Fowler, CA, USA
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I have just completed more testing. What I have found is that if you use the "End of Page" section type, then "Page Footer" and "Last Page Footer" do not display at all in AR Print/Preview (I had to insert dummy text in the sections to verify). It does in fact Print/Preview correctly in the designer.
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Kay N. Paboojian, Jr.
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#7844 - 11/02/06 11:50 AM
Re: AR letter specification
[Re: Softrak Support]
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Adagio Scholar
Registered: 06/19/06
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Loc: Fowler, CA, USA
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Sorry, I didn't see your reply. I was doing additional testing and posted my second reply. Conceptually, I would agree with your statement if it was "Statements" that I am printing. But in a letter, it seems better to have an intro, detail, and then reference to the detail above. This is a form of a "dunning letter".
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#7846 - 11/02/06 04:03 PM
Re: AR letter specification
[Re: Softrak Support]
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Adagio Scholar
Registered: 06/19/06
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Loc: Fowler, CA, USA
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If it works the way you describe, then why is it different between the designer & AR printer?
Where is the documentation on the designer features?
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#7848 - 11/02/06 04:30 PM
Re: AR letter specification
[Re: Kay]
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Adagio Master
Registered: 03/16/99
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Loc: Canada
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Hello Kay,
The designer is documented in the Adagio Fundamentals manual.
The print preview in the designer assumes that enough details to generate both a "page footer" and a "last page footer" (if oyu have those two section types). The print preview when printing actual letters may not have records to generate all the sections.
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#7849 - 11/02/06 04:56 PM
Re: AR letter specification
[Re: Retired_Guy]
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Adagio Scholar
Registered: 06/19/06
Posts: 82
Loc: Fowler, CA, USA
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I guess I am not communicating - my fault. I get the page header, all the detail lines, may run onto multiple pages, and if I leave out the "End of Page" then I get the "Page Footer" and "Last Page Footer" in both the Designer and AR Print/Preview in the correct expected locations. If I put the "End of Page" in then I don't get either "Page Footer" or "Last Page Footer" in the correct expected locations.
My objective is to put text that includes a signature line that floats up to near the last detail line where ever it ends. I will say 1 more time it is exactly perfect in the Designer Print/Preview. What good is the designer print/preview if AR doesn't handle specifications the same way - I am confused!
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#7857 - 11/02/06 07:27 PM
Re: AR letter specification
[Re: Kay]
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Adagio Action Team
Registered: 03/09/99
Posts: 11564
Loc: Vancouver, BC Canada
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Hi Kay,
I'm sorry that the print preview within the Receivables specification designer is showing information printing underneath the 'End of Page' section, which makes it appear to print something in the manner you would like it too. As Andrew posted above, previewing within the designer application (rather than a live spec) has some overrides built into it in order show enough pages to show all the page headers and footers - there are different footer sections that can be included to print on the first and second pages of a 2 page letter or statement. Because of these over-rides, you may get information to print after the 'End of Page' section. But in actual practice when printing letters or statements for real, no information will print.
To answer your question, you cannot get anything to print in the 'null space' between the last detail and the top of the footer section on printed statements or letters. The 'exception' is vertical lines where the top of the line is within the Page Header section and is formatted to be as long as the length of the page.
What information are you printing in a 'Detail' section of your letters? A list of Outstanding Invoices? Can you guarantee that there will be less than a certain number of details that print.
You will see that sample Letter specifications are only a single large Page Header section, without details or a footer. This gives complete control over object placement within the letter. When you add a detail and footer section, there are no more precise controls because the number of details is a variable.
As mentioned in an earlier post, the only way to get information to print higher up the page, underneath the details, is to make the section height of the page footer to be much larger, and place this signature line at the top of the page footer section.
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