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#51464 - 11/04/16 03:07 PM GL with 52/53 fiscal periods
Douglas Dickie Offline
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Registered: 06/02/99
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Loc: Vancouver, BC
I'd like to find out how many users/dealers out there have heard of this requirement and in what industries?

A financial statement with weekly fiscal periods to report on things like:

This week vs this week last year

So this would require 52 fiscal periods with a 53rd every 7 years.
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#51465 - 11/04/16 03:41 PM Re: GL with 52/53 fiscal periods [Re: Douglas Dickie]
Michael Mulrooney Offline
Adagio Virtuoso

Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 839
Loc: Vancouver, BC
Softrak's Financial reporter design can handle this situation, except for the 53rd week every 7 years.

Is there a budget for the project?

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#51467 - 11/04/16 04:17 PM Re: GL with 52/53 fiscal periods [Re: Michael Mulrooney]
Douglas Dickie Offline
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Registered: 06/02/99
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Loc: Vancouver, BC
Michael:

No budget, only because it's early days and I don't yet have a concept of what a budget needs to look like to have a meaningful discussion.

Are you thinking that the financial report would be changed from periods to some defined date ranges?

If you go to a 52 fiscal periods then isn't this more than just a financial reporter issue? Retrieve from sub-ledgers by 'period based on date' and selecting the period during GL batch entry come to mind as issues.

There would also need to be a 53 period solution. Again it's early days so we just been to figure it out, maybe this isn't that big of an issue. Thinking the problem through, in a 13 period cycle, every 7th year the 13th period gets 5 weeks rather than 4 (a 25% increase, because of time, when compared to the prior year). In a 52 period cycle, every 7th year, without a 53rd period, the 52nd period gets 2 weeks rather than 1 (a 100% increase, because of time, when compared to the prior year, which may not be acceptable).
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#51469 - 11/04/16 04:32 PM Re: GL with 52/53 fiscal periods [Re: Douglas Dickie]
Michael Mulrooney Offline
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Registered: 02/07/02
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Loc: Vancouver, BC
There would be no "connection" between the "GL52" and the subledgers. The approach would be to "process" GL Transaction based on the transaction date ( they would need to be accurate ) and assign them to the appropriate Fiscal Year/Fiscal Period in a "custom" GL52 database.

Our data structure and design provides for a Y/E Period (53rd) but it is always present.

We would not be able to accommodate a occasional 53rd period.

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#51743 - 11/24/16 02:41 PM Re: GL with 52/53 fiscal periods [Re: Douglas Dickie]
Brian Stief Offline
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Registered: 04/04/06
Posts: 1733
Loc: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Hi Doug,

We ran into this request about 10 years ago, for a grocery chain, that had a specific requirement (or so they said) for weekly financials.

Their finance group struggled with our suggestion to go to 13 x 4 week periods, and that was the key that weekly F/S would be a bust. So we walked away.

I guess there are some sites that need weekly financials but they don't need Adagio or their volume of users would not be able to be handled by Adagio.

Best,
Brian
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#51745 - 11/24/16 02:51 PM Re: GL with 52/53 fiscal periods [Re: Brian Stief]
Retired_Guy Offline
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Registered: 03/16/99
Posts: 10504
Loc: Canada
Hi Brian,

Restaurant / Hospitality / Retail often look for weekly operating financials. Typically they don't have very many people in the accounting department.
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#51748 - 11/24/16 04:05 PM Re: GL with 52/53 fiscal periods [Re: Retired_Guy]
Douglas Dickie Offline
Adagio God

Registered: 06/02/99
Posts: 4407
Loc: Vancouver, BC
Brian:

Don't know why your client struggled, it's not like you have to pick the correct period with every data entry step.

Though 13 x 4 weeks is the correct option, most of my Restaurant / Hospitality / Retail clients use 12 periods of 4 weeks/4 weeks/5 weeks and repeat. Not sure why.
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Douglas Dickie
AccSys Solutions Inc
Phone: 1.888.534.4344
ddickie@accsyssolutions.com

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#51775 - 11/28/16 12:58 PM Re: GL with 52/53 fiscal periods [Re: Douglas Dickie]
Patricia B. Offline
Adagio Maestro

Registered: 06/26/08
Posts: 1157
Loc: Langley, BC
To properly allocate labour?
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