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#38144 - 08/09/13 06:51 AM Re: One time vendor & AP transaction [Re: Retired_Guy]
Samuel Kopstick Offline
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OK, sounds like this may work.

One question about the Sundry Vendors: Is there any limit on the # of Sundry Vendors that can be entered in PO?
(Seems not, as we may use this feature and have a couple hundred Sundry Vendors. Not a huge amount.)
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#38145 - 08/09/13 06:58 AM Re: One time vendor & AP transaction [Re: Samuel Kopstick]
Retired_Guy Offline
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#38146 - 08/09/13 07:05 AM Re: One time vendor & AP transaction [Re: Retired_Guy]
Brian Stief Offline
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Registered: 04/04/06
Posts: 1713
Loc: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Hi,
We're thinking it's just a matter of time before all companies will be required to do reporting of vendor transaction activity on respective 1099's in USA or 5018's in Canada, so putting all miscellaneous vendors into a single vendor is asking for problems down the road, or creating extra work for admin staff. If you don't know what these forms are, you should check the reporting requirements out.

Using a blank vendor does work for cutting manual cheques (checks), but you lose all activity traceability. And you are beat for the eventual expected reporting by vendor.

Creating a vendor account for all vendors is very easy to do with the default settings in Adagio. The real issue is using an effective and easy way to assign numbers and that doesn't mean some form of ABC001. There are many effective methods that your Adagio consultant can suggest.

Agree with Andrew, just set up the separate vendors, and use the inactive/active flag to suppress one time vendors if the complete listing is too long. Separate vendors will save time in the long run for all users.

From personal experience, nothing frustrates me more than having look for a vendor transaction in Adagio or in hard copy files and to find out that it may be in Misc vendor or Misc vendor by letter. How crazy is that? Every time you want to look for a vendor transaction, you need to then guess the vendors transaction activity whether the transaction is in a misc file or starts in a misc file and could be in a vendor file if the activity grows from a one time vendor. It gets back to working smarter not harder.

Similarly, invoices paid by credit card should be posted to the vendors account, not the payment vendor. We use Link2Systems' Link2Points to resolve that issue in preparation for the eventual 1099 and 5018 reporting. Call us if you need more details.

Best,
Brian
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#38147 - 08/09/13 07:09 AM Re: One time vendor & AP transaction [Re: Brian Stief]
Retired_Guy Offline
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Registered: 03/16/99
Posts: 10493
Loc: Canada
Following on from Brian's advice...

You might consider setting up a specific AP Control account for one time Vendors to easily isolate them on reports.
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#38151 - 08/09/13 09:18 AM Re: One time vendor & AP transaction [Re: Retired_Guy]
Steve Schwartz Offline
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Registered: 03/10/02
Posts: 4446
Loc: Wynnewood, PA
Hi Brian

I don't disagree with your philosophy about creating a vendor no matter what, but I do disagree with you about the eventual requirement for universal 1099/5018 reporting. So long as companies use AMEX and VISA, it will never happen. In the US, universal 1099 reporting was enacted a few years back (Congress needed to project additional income to offset additional expenditures for some piece of legislature) and then was rescinded a year later when the politicians came to their senses - despite the fact that 90% of businesses would have been initially exempt anyway.

Maybe Canadian politicians are dumber, but that would be hard to imagine. I personally was rooting for enactment - it would have far surpassed Y2K in terms of consulting opportunities for me.

Steve

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